ACLU, Where Are You?

“Jesus loves the little children,

All the children of the world.

They are precious in His sight.

Jesus loves the little children

Of the world.”

I always loved that song. When I was a kid, it always cheered me, made me happier, made me just a little more secure.  As I grew, I had my beefs with God, had my tangles with spirituality, but I’ve always believed that particular part of that particular song.  It stuck with me.

So imagine my surprise this week when I heard it again.  Only it wasn’t referring to Jesus…

“He said red, yellow, black or white
All are equal in his sight
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama”

Wait a minute.

Barack Hussein Obama?

My son, had he gone to a public school (thank GOD he didn’t go to a public school), could not say a prayer before his meal.  He could not have a moment of silence because he might be thinking a prayer during that time.  Whenever schools even intimate that they might be having a “Christmas” celebration, the ACLU is breathing down their neck, citing the fictional “Separation of Church and State” Clause of the Constitution.

Those same children go on to sing:

“Hello, Mr. President we honor you today!
For all your great accomplishments, we all doth say “hooray!”

Hooray, Mr. President! You’re number one!
The first black American to lead this great nation!”

That is sung to the (butchered) tune of “The Battle Hymn of the Republic”, which is yet another song that is no longer taught in public school because it’s about God.  And that’s not allowed.  Because it might “force” kids to “worship” where they don’t want to.

As much as I might disagree with the extremes that the “separation of church and state” campaign has gone, I can understand the basis of it.  If you’re a practicing Jew, but cannot afford to send your child to a private Hebrew school, you don’t want his grade being based upon him singing praises to Jesus Christ.  If you’re a Muslim, you might not approve of him starting every meal with “Bless us oh Lord, for these, thy gifts we are about to receive…”

But what about those of us who don’t want our children worshiping false idols?  That one spans the religions.  I know it’s there in the Ten Commandments, which are common to both Christianity and Judaism.  I’m not intimately familiar with the Qu’aran, but what I could figure out, through both internet searching and looking through the copy I have in my house (yes, I have one), it doesn’t condone false idolatry, either.

What about those of us who teach our children to be suspicious of Government, to not trust blindly, but to examine the motives of every move they make?  Are those children allowed to tell their teachers, “No thanks, I’d prefer not to sing that song”?

Where is the ACLU on this one?  Where is the “mainstream” press – ABC, NBC, CBS?  These songs sound suspiciously like worship songs, and yet?  Silence.  Or, in the case of the “blogosphere,” attacks.

I fear what it will take for people to wake up.  I fear that when enough of us finally do, it will only be to remember the way things used to be.  To tell our grandchildren, “yeah, I used to be able to drive whatever car I wanted;  I used to be able to choose my own doctor.  I used to be able to buy a Coca-Cola for only 75¢, and without the Sugar, Fat, and Sin Taxes!”

What happened to Common Sense?  Where are those who will stand up for it?

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33 Responses to ACLU, Where Are You?

  1. SKL says:

    Now, this is one time I’m glad my computer doesn’t have sound!

    Now, I heard about the hubbub of some New Jersey(?) principal “allowing” kids to sing a pro-Obama song, and I thought, well, it didn’t sound that bad. I mean, the majority of kids in the district were from families who would be ecstatic about Obama’s election, so might as well let them get it out of their system. And although it’s wrong for the principal to push her personal beliefs onto kids, it’s going to happen in a free country. Then I heard that she has in the past done an emergency drill using “right-wing-extremists” as the bogeyman. OK, so this woman needs to be reined in. But in the great scheme of things, if it’s just an isolated incident, it’s not going to get my blood pressure up.

    The fact that they butchered the songs is more likely to get my goat. How can they get away with teaching my kids that and calling it “music”? Cringe, cringe, cringe!!!!

    But you are right, where is the ACLU, etc? Forget about the media – they are deaf, dumb, and blind when it comes to anything in the liberal agenda. It is sad, but journalism is pretty much dead (and has been for a while). But the ACLU, with whom I rarely agree, has been known to stand up for conservatives’ interests when schools have gone way overboard. So yeah, someone ought to give them a call and see what they say.

    Why did they let Obama tell the kids “God bless you” in his speech, by the way? (I don’t think he even believes in it, but they shouldn’t have let him put on the act. No other authority in public schools is allowed to say God bless.)

    There is a scary, insidious thread underlying all of this: the creeping agenda of getting everyone, especially those without well-developed thinking abilities, to accept the idea that Obama (or any US President) is above all other humans and has a right or duty to run our lives. Although parents can try to counter what kids hear in school, there is still a lot of tripe that gets digested as fact. I am still “un-learning” some of the politically-biased “facts” that I read in my school texts.

  2. Lucy says:

    I think its ridiculous for schools to sing songs (or say pledges about politicians or religion… school should be a place thats void of all of these things. It should be a place for children to learn. It shouldnt be about god, allah, or the president. However, I ask you, would you feel the same way if the song was about the former president Bush?

    I think some of the proposals made by the current administration are common sense. I think its ok to have a sugar, fat, and sin tax (as you call it). For example, the soda industry has a big part in the US being obese and children being unhealthy. I have seen WAY to many parents fill their children’s sippy cups (!!!!!) with coke and dr. pepper. Whats so wrong about increasing the price of it and decreasing people’s consumption? The money raised from the taxes could be used for childhood obesity intervention/prevention programs. If a coke cost $3 instead of $0.75 adults and parents might think twice about drinking it and serving it to their children. To me this idea is common sense. Same goes for fast food. What’s so bad about discouraging habits that are bad for our health? (especially if good things can be done with the money that is received).

    The government should also legalize pot and tax the hell out of it. Fact is that a significant amount of people smoke pot all the time… the black market is making TONS of money. Why not make it legal, but make it more expensive, and use the tax money for researching the medical benefits of marijuana? Or drug prevention programs for adolescents?

    I understand that people do not want the government dictating what you can or cannot do, what you should eat, what you should drink. Trust me, I love my diet coke and fast food…but I know I ‘m not making the best choices. If things are more expensive I might just think twice about buying it. Also, the government is not forbidding you to eat it.. they are not making soda/cigarette/ or fast food illegal!

    Also, another important point is that even if government is not telling you what to so… someone else it. Right now its just big business. For instance, who do you think is paying for all the (ridiculous) commercials telling us that High fructose cornsyrup is not bad for us? It;s the Corn Refiners Association…. hmmm, I wonder what is in it for them??? Oh yes, lots of money! They dont care about how their products effect adults or children. How do you feel about big businesses advertising unhealthy food (i.e. sugary cereal) directly to children?

    Sorry I’m done ranting now. I’m sure I’m in the minority with my opinion among all you readers..but I’m ok with that. I’m always up for a good discussion, but just be kind with your responses 🙂

  3. SKL says:

    Earlier today I was reading about the latest Obamanations, in between reading a novel set in WWII France, and I thought: we are occupied. We are occupied by an alien force that wants to control us, take our wealth, suppress our free speech, subject us to ideals that the majority of us do not hold, punish us for wrongs that we did not commit, . . . and then they wonder why we show fear, anger, distrust, and disgust when we encounter their BS head-on.

    Well, in France, the US superpower came to the rescue. There is no superpower to come to our rescue. We have to stop this trend before it snowballs to a force that we can’t fight.

  4. SKL says:

    Lucy, the thing is, we are proud of our great country, and it became great largely because of the limited role of government. This country was founded on the idea of limited government, and it has flourished in every way. The only things in our country that have escaped innovation and prosperity are things we have put the government in charge of.

    Some will say that there are too many Americans who are not participating in this prosperity, therefore it is immoral. To that I will say, send any of our so-called “poor” to live in the poor areas of any socialist country for a while, then bring them back and ask if they felt richer over there. Our “poor” are better off than the middle classes of most socialized countries. They just don’t know it because people who don’t have their best interests at heart are lying to them (or are just as ignorant as they are).

    And furthermore, many of us, myself included, were born with nothing and have figured out how to succeed in this country. We figured out that working and studying wasn’t any harder than milking the system and blaming others.

    And now the mantra is that capitalism is the cause of all ills. Well, guess what – all sustainable jobs in this world are either created by capitalists, or funded by taxes paid by capitalists. And in this country, everyone can be a capitalist if they want to.

    Now on taxes. Back to the point that our country was founded on the basis of limited government. Making policy on what we will eat or drink (other than stuff that’s literally poison when not used correctly) is not the role of government. Every human is going to make good and bad choices one way or the other. In countries where goodies are taxed, are the people skinny? No, those inclined to overeat will just end up eating whatever unheathy diet they can afford, e.g., lots of red meat, bread, potatoes, gravy. Show me one country where taxes made fat people skinny and happy. There isn’t one. So aside from the basic idea of freedom, there is no evidence that a government actually benefits individuals by making their life choices for them.

    Further on taxes. A sin tax is nearly always a regressive tax. Meaning that the people who have the least money will be paying the most taxes. (I mean, which demographic groups do you think smoke the most cigarettes, eat the most trans fats, put the most sugary nonsense in their kids’ sippy cups?) But in Obamaland, that won’t be allowed – they will surely make exceptions for everyone on public assistance, etc. – so the people who are most in need of a diet overhaul won’t be affected anyway, and the groups who will pay the taxes will basically be paying a penalty for others’ bad choices. Which is what many of today’s existing taxes are, too.

    You suggest that marijuana should be legalized and taxed. First of all, MJ is much more harmful to a healthy person than the MJ lobby would have you believe. Secondly, do you think the black market would disappear and all those folks would suddenly start declaring their revenues? The populations where most drug deals go down are a lot more prosperous than their tax returns will ever reflect – and MJ is just a drop in the bucket over there. Remember, the way our government benefits are set up, you are not allowed to better yourself, or you will get kicked out of your subsidized apartment and have to start paying for food and child care like everyone else. God forbid! Folks who grow weed in their backyards and sell it to school kids are not going to go get a vendor’s license.

    Health care. Today’s problems with health care are mostly caused by the government meddling that has already happened. Government requirements limit the choices currently available on the free market. Easing these requirements would make catastrophic insurance affordable to nearly everyone, and we’d be happy to close the gap for the few who could not afford that (as we do now anyway). We do not need the government to ensure a doctor looks into our kids’ nose and ears every year whether they are sick or not. And we certainly don’t need to pay the government thousands of dollars for this service.

    Back to soda again. I’ll tell you the best way to stop people from getting fat on soda. Stop subsidizing it by allowing welfare recipients to spend their food stamps on crap like that! If they get any subsidies at all, they should be limited to unquestionably healthy food. Plain, whole vegetables, fruits, nonfat milk, whole grain bread and cereals. Hey, that’s what I eat, and if it’s good enough for me, it’s good enough for people who live off my tax money. If people had to actually work to get money for fries and soda, there would be a lot less obesity in this country.

    By the way, I ate/drank a large quantity of junk food and soda throughout my adolescence. It was most of what I ate during those years. I have never been obese or even overweight (based on doctors’ charts). No ADD, no diabetes, bla bla bla. The same is true of most people we know. My sister has always been overweight no matter what she ate. I do believe in feeding developing kids well (and my own kids have never even tasted soda), but I don’t believe this is a national security issue that needs government intervention. That’s just an excuse for an anti-American agenda.

    • Lucy says:

      I’m not saying that the US should become a socialist state, but I don’t think it could hurt for the US to become more of a welfare state. And by this I dont mean that the government should be handing out money to everyone so that they can have 5 children and smoke crack all day. What I mean is that this country should increase the safety net that is available to low-income and disadvantaged individuals. Although Medicaid and WIC are a great start, certain areas need increased attention. Child care, early education programs/preschools are a good place to start. I know there is early Head Start and Head Start but these programs have funding issues and are also only available to the poorest of people. If you want individuals to go out and support themselves by working, you also need to make childcare affordable and accessible (and good quality!!).

      I understand that its possible to be born with nothing in this country and to learn how to succeed… but its not as easy for everyone. It is a lot harder for poor African Americans and Hispanics to “pick themselves up by their bootstraps”. There are reports out there that disparities/inequalities exist between various groups (SES and racial) starting as early as 9 months of age! In general, poor children are disadvantaged from the beginning.. they are in lower quality child care centers, attend lower quality schools, have worse teachers, have fewer opportunities, face greater discrimination (i could go on and on with this list). I think it SHOULD be America’s MORAL responsibility to provide equal opportunities to EVERY child!!

      You said that ” A sin tax is nearly always a regressive tax. Meaning that the people who have the least money will be paying the most taxes. (I mean, which demographic groups do you think smoke the most cigarettes, eat the most trans fats, put the most sugary nonsense in their kids’ sippy cups?) But in Obamaland, that won’t be allowed – they will surely make exceptions for everyone on public assistance, etc. – so the people who are most in need of a diet overhaul won’t be affected anyway, and the groups who will pay the taxes will basically be paying a penalty for others’ bad choices. Which is what many of today’s existing taxes are, too.”
      I agree with you that it would be messed up if the people on public assistance would be excempt from this type of tax. I think it is horrible that so much bad food can be purchased with foodstamps/WIC. I agree with you that these subsidies should only be spent on healthy food.

      You are right about drugdealers still selling to school children and not declaring their venues. However, not all drug dealers are in the ghetto. Go to any college campus.. many RICH, WHITE kids are selling dope. If it were legal, those people would be more likely to declare their earnings.

      I’m not even going to get into the health care debate…

      You also said that you ate/drank a large quantity of junk food and soda throughout your adolescence and never got fat/sick. I think there are many people like you out there…but there are more people out there that are affected by the foods they eat. Although I don;t think that obesity is a matter of national security, I definitely think it is a matter of national concern!! The prevalence of obesity among children aged 6 to 11 more than doubled in the past 20 years, going from 6.5% in 1980 to 17.0% in 2006. The rate among adolescents aged 12 to 19 more than tripled, increasing from 5% to 17.6%. This most definitely due to lifestyle changes that have occurred over the last 20 years (and not due to any genetic changes!). Obese children are unhealthier, need more medical care, and are bound to become unhealthy adults. I’m not sure what’s “anti-American” about wanting to make people living in the country healthier….unless you think the essence of being American is to consume soda, fast food, and being fat!

      • SKL says:

        Lucy, I won’t rehash my points of disagreement with your above comment, but I want to address the last comment. The reason I didn’t get fat on junk food was probably that I was active. I didn’t participate in sports, but I had a walking paper route spanning miles, and in addition to that I did a fair amount of physical activity every day – by choice.

        Now if we are going to tax people into good health (the premise of which I find offensive, but for argument’s sake), what we really should tax are chairs, couches, TVs, tables, beds, pianos, computers, books, libraries, cars, buses, basically anything that makes it easy for people to sit or lie around more than they should. We should ban homework, because it not only keeps kids inactive, but it makes it easy for them to keep snacks at hand and munch while they work. I mean, sitting at the piano never made me fat, but studies show that sitting on your butt is correlated with weight gain, so I ought to pay a piano tax.

        Or, doesn’t it make more sense to tax red meat, white starches, corn oil, butter and margarine, anything containing milk fat, 100% fruit juice, candy bars, sugary cereal, microwave food, etc., etc., etc.?

        Of course, you would have to choose between the corn lobby, the wheat lobby, the dairy lobby, the fruit lobby, the car lobby, the school lobby, the furniture lobby, . . . because each of these would be presenting to Congress all the reasons why their product is actually far healthier than all the others listed.

        In short, where does it end? Why sugar? Is it because most of it is imported from exporters that we don’t care that much about? Did Coke and Pepsi donate to the wrong party? How much of this is really based on what’s best for individuals? Can the political process ever be objective, fair, logical, even sane? Experience suggests the answer is no.

        Another thing. You seem to care a lot about certain groups of unfortunate people. If so, the best thing you can do for them is go help them directly. Look them in the eye, converse with them, see what they need, and help them to get it. Show them that you, as a human, care about them, as humans. That’s the only really effective way to benefit other individuals. Government handouts don’t uplift people; quite the opposite.

        I’ve done a lot of volunteer work and charitable given, and I’ve paid a lot of taxes. I know how much a dollar of well-managed giving can impact individuals and communities. I also know how little the average dollar of tax money accomplishes in the same communities. Believe me, this isn’t about me (or other conservatives, who average much higher giving and volunteering than liberals) not caring about the “little people” or however you want to think of them. It’s about not viewing the government as the appropriate entity to manage most “beneficial” programs.

        You are entitled to your opinion. But I hope you back it up with plenty of tax-paying and charitable giving.

  5. SKL says:

    Oh, and another point on Lucy’s comment. I do not understand the idea that if you, a thinking adult, choose to do something unhealthy, someone needs to tell you not to do it. Nor the idea that if you see a commercial on TV, the evil capitalist has forced you to do something you wouldn’t otherwise do.

    I don’t know, when I go grocery shopping, it’s I alone who decides what goes into my cart. And I make choices based on my priorities of the moment. Mostly I make very healthy choices. But on a rough day, I might say “screw it” and buy something that’s going to make my jeans tight until I choose to work it off. I don’t say “gosh, the commercial said I don’t love my kids if I don’t buy them sugar-o’s.” Nor “I would buy Kool-Aid if it weren’t so darn expensive.” You know, I find these kinds of arguments scary.

    Maybe some people have decided that obesity is worth it. Ever think of that? I say make them pay for their choices, and let them be. Don’t tax obesity through a soda tax, which hurts many who will never be obese; but let everyone deal with the consequences of their health choices, without government subsidies and meddling.

    The more we remove choices and logical consequences from people’s lives, the more they will fail in making the really important decisions. We are not born stupid, but the government seems bent on making us stupid.

  6. ms firefly says:

    that video of obama-praising? unbelievable.

  7. Tony says:

    Hmmm… Reminds me of the olden days. The really olden days waaaayyyy back in Egypt when Pharaohs were worshipped as gods or Rome where Emperors were worshipped as gods. Looks like they get all the kiddies to barrack for Barrack. People make gods out of politicians, actors/actresses, musicians, sports players etc etc etc & thats seen as “Normal” talk about God Our Heavenly Father though & that’s just totally unacceptable to the majority today. Secularism is reigning supreme

  8. Laura (LS) says:

    Lucy ~ First off, thank you for your well-phrased and polite response. I’ve dealt with many people, both online and off, who are not so nice, and your attitude is refreshing. Rest assured, you will not be attacked here. Your ideas might be, but you, my friend, ARE a friend. And we welcome you here with open arms.

    Now then….

    Yes, I would have reacted the same way if these songs had been sung about Bush, Clinton, Reagan… or Washington, for that matter. These people are all men. Men are not worshiped by me. Appreciated, yes. Enjoyed, yes. Despised, in some cases, yes. But worshiped? No.

    Frankly, I’m getting sick of being asked that question, “what if Bush had done it? You’d be fine with it then, wouldn’t you?” No, no, and no again. Bush had me at 9/11. He promptly lost me with Homeland Security, TSA, and the Medicaid Part “B” debacle.

    SKL did a wonderful job of discussing the Sin Taxes, which I disagree with, so I’m not going to muddy the waters. Except to say this:

    When God made us, He gave us the gift of Free Will. If God can trust us with it, why, then, can’t the government?

    • Joy says:

      I’m getting sick of that questions too Laura. “What if Bush did it?” So what if he did? He’s not the President now and it has nothing to do with anything. People were so disrespectful of him that it wasn’t even funny.

    • Lucy says:

      Laura,
      It’s also refreshing to have a good discussion with people who do not have my views. 🙂 I’m sorry to have brought up the question about Bush…. I can imagine how that must get annoying. However, I currently live in Texas and am often surrounded by individuals who have the this particular attitude that whatever Bush did was right…. so forgive me 🙂

      I agree with you that we have free will…but in my opinion the Sin taxes shouldn;t exist because the government doesn’t trust us with our free will. In my opinion, the tax should exist in order to pay for all the damage that our choices make! For example, the money made from these taxes should be used to create obesity/drug education/intervention programs… because smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol, and eating bad food has consequences, some more pervasive than others.

  9. Joy says:

    I saw this one day last week when one of my cousins put it on Facebook and it just really made me feel sad. I’m not even sure I can say why. It just did. Since when do we do something like this? This is the President. He’s just a man. He’s nothing more or less special than any other President we’ve had and there will be many more to come.

    Then you have that teacher saying “let’s all sing it together, I like that,” and it just sounds so bad. I feel it’s one thing to sing America The Beautiful or say the Pledge but this falls to a dangerously different level.

    I would not have been happy had my boys been prompted to sing something like this at age 5. It feels “cult-like” to me and I think that’s what bothers me.

  10. SKL says:

    Another point about sin taxes, etc: while our government is spending this time on all this unnecessary legislation / policy, it is being distracted from its actual constitutional responsibilities. At the present, it is extremely important that they get a better handle on national security and foreign relations. And saying “I’m sorry Bush sucked” doesn’t cut it. And they need to honestly examine the role that Federal taxes play in the current economic crisis. That would be a good start. Let me worry about my kids’ sugar intake.

    • Lucy says:

      I agree that foreign relations are important… the US should finally ratify the Convention of the Rights of the Child and the Kyoto protocol… this might actually make other countries have a little bit more respect for us and not think that this country is bigger, better, more powerful, or important than all the others

      The United States and Somalia are the only countries from the UN who have not ratified the Convention of the Rights of the Child (even Iran and Saudi Arabia have!!).

      The US is one of the few countries (along with Chad, Somalia, Iran, Afghanistan, and various other “non-westernized” countries) that have not ratified this important protocol.

      • SKL says:

        The “rights of the child” – have you read it? I have. Take out the stuff about the “right” for a child to be aborted and the “right” of a child to stagnate (or die) in an underfunded orphanage (or on the streets of a filthy slum, or in a garbage dump) even though there are prospective adoptive parents in other countries, and maybe it would be worth considering.

        The “rights of the child” has been ratified by countries that will never begin to enforce it. How many of those countries take child abuse seriously? How many of them make sure kids’ needs are met? Ratification of this document is basically meaningless in most cases.

        The “rights of the child,” if actually enforced, would leave my children either dead, or severely impoverished and uneducated. No thank you.

  11. javajunkee says:

    Houston we have a problem. Oh HELL NO! My kid would no way in hell be “chanting” this without some teacher getting her ass suspended. Like you said..my kids couldn’t pray even silently and yet these kids are chanting to obama…..

    HELL TO THE NO!

  12. javajunkee says:

    yeah I feel the old standby..”what if it were bush” is getting old too. I too would have had just as much an issue with a chanting to bush. If my kid can’t sing oh holy night in school he/she better not be chanting to a president..I dont’ care who he is.

    I may have missed this in response to lucy. When I was pregnant with my daughter and for a short time after she was born I was on WIC …we could only buy non sugared cereal, 2% milk, cheese, and eggs with that.

    So if we tax the non essentials are they going to bring the prices of organic foods down? My guess is no. So people like us in the lower middle class are screwed. We don’t eat out a lot so a fast food tax doesn’t concern me. But we see how many people have actually not stopped when the government stepped in and hiked up the price of cigarettes. Don’t you think the people who really want a big mac will pay for it? I won’t cuz I’m not fond of kangaroo meat but oh well to each his own.
    Unless the government counteracts by lowering the cost of healthy food. You know that aisle where you see LV and coach purses….the people like me carrying a low balance checkbook in a goodwill purse are screwed.

    • Lucy says:

      Java Junkee,
      I agree with you that healthy food should be cheaper than it is now and made available/affordable to everyone. I also think that individuals who receive foodstamps should have the opportunity to eat healthy and that these subsidies should encourage/require healthy choices.

      I agree with you that people will still make poor choices when prices are high. Some will be discouraged because the increased price will not be worth it for them..others will continue to eat bad food. But as Ive said before… I’m more interested in what the tax money can be used for.

      • SKL says:

        Lucy, you sound very confident that our government would most surely put the tax money to good use. That must be why they’ve succeeded in wiping out poverty, drugs, crime, high school dropouts, and teen pregnancy. After all, look how much tax they have collected and how much of it has gone toward programs to deal with those ills.

        I am not as confident as you. I have yet to meet a single person who became better as a result of government welfare programs in this country. I’d love to believe that at least public education would benefit those who need it most – but alas, look at the topic of this post. Principals teaching kids to sing “we all doth say hooray”? We already spend more than most countries on all of these programs. And a hugely disproportionate amount of this money goes toward the demographic groups you are so concerned about. But the politics behind the money sap much of the potential effectiveness. And politics are never going to be separated from tax dollars.

        Hence, the vast majority of Americans (i.e., those who actually pay taxes) would rather have that money to either spend on what they feel is best for their kids, or give charity in a way they feel will make a positive difference. I strongly believe this would benefit everyone, including those who pay no taxes.

        • Lucy says:

          Unfortunately I know very much about the fail systems of programs and interventions. Past administration have not put all money to good use. But research and experimentation needs to happen in order to find programs that succeed. The current administration is very interested in evidence based policies and programs. Money needs to be spent in researching and enhancing those programs that do work. One reason we have such a high teenage pregnancy rate is because abstinence only programs don;t work! I know that this view is not popular with many people, but research has shown over and over again that it does not reduce rates of teenage pregnancy. However, as you so nicely said, politics are never going to be separated from (tax) dollars. I have hopes that this administration will actually take EVIDENCE into account and be less persuaded by people who have a political agenda.

          • SKL says:

            This administration is most certainly persuadable by people with a political agenda.

            High hopes that a new president will do the opposite of 100 past years of presidents (democrat and republican) are very expensive hopes.

            And I happen to be footing the bill for them in a big way. It really pains me. I have not been able to contribute anything to my kids’ education fund since I became a mom, mainly because my taxes are nearly as high as my take-home pay. Yet you feel I don’t pay enough tax, because there are fat, irresponsible people in the world whose drink of choice happens to be soda. Sigh. What else can I say?

  13. Just a Mom says:

    This is why I pay for Catholic School!

  14. Gary says:

    Notice the teacher stays the hell out of the video. 🙂

  15. javajunkee says:

    as well she should cuz I am betting some parents are going to be rightly pissed off about this!

  16. Sue says:

    SKL summoned up a lot of what I was thinking and so did JJ. I worked in a grocery store for 5 years as a teenager and I saw it all. The people who could afford food and those on food stamps, and let me tell you, the people on food stamps put back the CANS OF VEGETABLES so they could buy the case of pop. Yes, it happened all the time that they chose sugary, unhealthy food over the less expensive veggies and things so taxing the “unhealthy” food wouldn’t do much. WIC is a much better program b/c it makes you choose healthy items and I’m sorry, but if my tax money is going to cover other people’s food, then you’d better be eating better! People need to stop relying on the government to give them a hand out and take some responsibility for their lives. Do something to better yourself!

    Onto the topic of the chanting Obama….I THINK NOT!!!!! I believe in God and so do my children so if they can’t pray silently (even though the Samali’s get a special room to pray) they better not have to chant some song about the president!

  17. Adell says:

    Very good discussion…don’t get me started…
    Look at History…Hitler and the red scarf Pioneers of Germany. This video is very scary. Where were the parents??
    Yes, we all have to fight back and fight we will for our freedom of the greatest country on God’s green earth that is ever so slowly being taken over bit by bit by the government. Like the frog who was put in the pot of water and didn’t really notice the heat until it was too late.
    Separation of church and state meant that the government could not interfere with the church, I believe that is what the fore fathers wanted….not the other way around. In public school students can practice what they want, say prayers etc. It is the teacher(government employee)that is prohibited from taking part in religion. It would be good if all religions had freedom. Now a days they all have freedom except Christianity. That is evident in so many cases. God Bless America…..America BLESS God!!

  18. Tessa says:

    I think it is good to respect whoever is the president and give him the benefit of a doubt. Obama has a different name, different skin color than other presidents have had, and use to be taught a religion called Islam. Currently, he is not Muslim. He is an American and the president. So for that I respect him. I did vote for the other guy, but to me it would be okay for my kids to sing an innocent song. But “worship” is not okay, but I do not see that here. My family will only worship God.

  19. Tessa says:

    I can see since it is a Christian song it should not be used that way because it disrespects Christians. The pledge of allegiance should be enough respect in schools.

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