Ah, Jesse Ventura. Former Governor of uh, um…….my state of Minnesota! Is this guy a kook or what? I mean really. Have any of you heard him talk about his new book? “American Conspiracies: Lies, Lies and More Dirty Lies the Government Tells Us.” He was on WCCO this morning. I’ve seen him on other things too but this morning he sounded more nuts than ever.
I think he was an okay Governor. In the whole scheme of thing things, he was “okay.” He got people out to vote that’s for sure. It was also one of those elections, at least for me anyway, where you didn’t vote for someone to win, you were voting for someone not to win. Both my kids voted for him. I can’t say I did but again, he was okay. But then, at least didn’t look like a madman with all that hair all over the place. Someone really needs to get a hold of some scissors and do something with that hair because quite frankly, I can’t take much of what he says seriously when I’m looking at him. He looks like Doc from Back To The Future and I mean no disrespect to Christopher Lloyd. Esme Murphy asked him if he was thinking of running for office again and he said “watch the hair, if I cut it, I’m thinking about it. You can’t have hair like this and be in politics.”
Here is a book review I got from Amazon. “Former Minnesota governor, navy SEAL, and pro rassler Ventura has a new truTVshow investigating but not necessarily debunking conspiracy theories. This companion to the program, a sort of teaser, dissects such famed objects of unending speculation as the JFK, RFK, and MLK assassinations. Ventura concludes that none of those were twisted-loner crimes but rather resulted from conspiracies of varying vastness. Anent the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Ventura asserts that “our government engaged in a massive cover-up” and had “ties to the hijackers.” He ventures that “unanswered questions remain about how the towers were brought down and whether a plane really struck the Pentagon” and that the “Bush Administration either knew about the plan” or “had a hand in it.” Heady, paranoiac stuff, to be sure, but there are even more forthright charges regarding the assassination of Malcolm X, the Jonestown massacre, and the “stolen” elections of 2000, 2004, 2008, and, for that matter, 1980. Believable? Some of it. An action-packed read? You bet. “–Mike Tribby
This whole “conspiracy” thing he’s talking about though, it has some merit but I feel some of it really goes too far. I can see some things happening the way he’s talking but there’s no way I believe the Bush Administration had any prior knowledge of the 911 attacks. Meanwhile though, I do believe some of the things he’s brought up “could” have happened though those are just my feelings and I have no basis for them. I do think there was more to JFK’s assassination that meets the eye. I have been reading a lot about the Kennedy’s in general lately but that’s because I’m interested in the era and I’ve read some pretty strange things about that family. I really wonder first of all why he was even a President in the first place. But…..that’s another post.
If you have no idea what he’s saying, here is an interview with Larry King.
Have any of you heard Jesse talk? Have any of you heard about all his “conspiracy theories? What do you think?
Well I could make the obvious/easy comment and say that he took too many blows to the head during his acting career as a professional wrestler but…
Some people just NEED to be in the spot light. Why in the world would I waste my time listening to such drivel as Jesse Ventura? I only have a finite amount of time and HE isn’t getting any of it… unless of course he happens to be in the news when I am watching.
I love your “blow to the head!” Good way to describe him sometimes.
I haven’t heard Jesse, but I have a friend who is an armchair conspiracy theorist. It’s hard to take seriously because “everything” is a conspiracy. Including the latest earthquake and the insidious spread of obesity. When everything is a conspiracy, that’s called paranoia. There’s medication for that.
I absolutely believe there are conspiracies out there. I happen to be really good at noticing patterns that most people miss. I will notice a trend that is not explainable by logic, and usually I can see motive and opportunity by some party in interest. But usually I am so far ahead of my time, the few people I mention it to will blow it off. (Then some time later I’m proven right, but whatever.)
I believe in a couple of conspiracy theories relevant to life in the USA today. One is the conspiracy to distort “global warming” data as an excuse to shift wealth to the more socialist parts of the world. (Think India, China, Eastern Europe . . . they need cash assistance to make environmental improvements, right? And it’s all our fault, even though our environmental practices are decades ahead of theirs.) I never believed in the global warming propoganda, and now the UN chief in charge of it is backing off of it.
The UN in general is one big conspiracy against the USA. Maybe it wasn’t in the beginning – I don’t know – but it is now. I think we ought to kick them out of New York. It would be more appropriate for them to be HQ’d in Cuba.
Another vast conspiracy is the miseducation / mental and spiritual castration occurring through the medium of the public schools. What kind of country locks 5-year-olds out of school for pointing their fingers and saying “bang, bang,” yet teaches them that there is no right and wrong when it comes to sexual relations? Assertiveness is bad, apathy is good. Also, the USA sucks and always has.
Political correctness may or may not be a “conspiracy,” but may as well be. I knew a woman who said, “I would never presume to tell my child what I think of abortion. That would be forcing my views on her.” At some point, people need to be able to say what they see and feel. I recall a woman on a normally friendly internet forum talking about an incident that scared her. She mentioned the person who creeped her out was a young African-American man. Half of the readers immediately decided that she was creeped out only because she is racist. Recently, a young foreign student confided to me that he felt he was being followed by a black man in DC. He said, “I didn’t want to assume anything; just because he’s black doesn’t mean he’s a mugger,” to which I said, “it doesn’t mean he isn’t, either.” He agreed, “yeah, so I ran.” But he hesitated in an effort to avoid hurting this guy’s feelings. I wonder how many times people go against their self-protective instincts and get hurt, because we’ve been taught that our instincts are evil. Yet you have the president declaring a cop “stupid” for making an arrest, with no knowledge of the facts other than that the arrested guy was black. At some point, people have to be allowed to use their actual brains.
SKL- You captured my thoughts perfectly….
Uh-oh, now it looks like my long-winded comment got lost. I’m sure there is a conspiracy afoot to silence me!
LOL SKL. Not a chance. Thanks for letting me know it wasn’t in.
Every time I see him I think he’s a human bobblehead. He’s a little out there but I believe that some of what he says on the conspiracy theories is true but he never ends the show with proof. The show ends and leaves everybody wondering if it’s true, that’s what I didn’t like. At least he got rid of the emissions testing in our state. Man I hated going to get that checked.
I just read the Larry King transcript. What a weirdo. Both of them.
You know what? A lot of people really like Larry King but I find him a really odd duck.
He’s another one that I never watch… no cable, don’tcha know… but I think he’s one of those guys, like David Letterman, whose time has come and gone. In their heyday, they were brilliant, funny, fresh, even cutting-edge. But now, they’re just weird, off-the-mark, and (in Letterman’s case) bitter and angry.
It’s long since time that they probably should have retired, but they simply can’t face the end of their ’empires’.
I worked for several years (we were both teaching assistants) with a conspiracy theorist. The guy was a nut. Nice guy, but a nut, nonetheless.
On a few fronts, he had a point. His mantra of “follow the money trail” was dead on, but then he took it too far, convinced that EVERYONE in power was a Mason, the Illuminati, or member of another secret society. And when I say Mason, I mean it in the “Lost Symbol” way – 33rd Degree Masons, full of secret handshakes and political intrigue – not in the “lets hold a charity fundraiser to benefit the children’s hospital” way.
He was convinced that every airplane that flew over was leaving “chem trails” (as opposed to “con(densation) trails” which occur naturally), with the purpose of dumbing down the masses, or testing mass distribution methods on the populace. He taught the kids that the Indians/Native Americans (there’s the PC thing for ya) were brought here by aliens to populate the earth.
He refused to allow his children to have a single vaccination, convinced that it was a ‘gubmint conspiracy, man,’ (sorry, “Cars” reference). He was completely convinced that every vaccination was poison, and the mercury in them was deliberately put there to infect our children. With what, I have no idea. I could never nail him down.
He kept a gas mask in his car. When 9/11 happened, he swore that he knew *exactly* who did it, and why, but when I encouraged him to call the FBI with his suspicions, he told me that they were part of the problem. “Do your own research,” he’d say. “Follow the money trail.”
I used to really enjoy arguing with him, because it was simply amazing the stuff that he’d come up with to refute the factual information that I’d pitch at him. But it was also scary, because there really is a faction of our society that believes this stuff, and as passionately as he did.
On the other hand, he did teach me a lot about mistrust, and withholding trust from those in power. Up until that point, I was pretty ignorant of the world around me. It was during the first GWBush presidency, and things were pretty OK, so my head was in the sand about most things political. He caused me to start paying attention and figure out what I believed and where my political values lie.
I haven’t seen Ventura’s show, but that’s probably how I would watch it, if I had the ability to. The show itself would probably scare the crap out of me, because I know that there ARE conspiracies out there, and not all that stuff is as far-fetched as we’d like to believe. At the same time, we generally regard Conspiracy Theorists as nutjobs because they usually go waaaay too far with their ideas and theories, and they rarely have the facts to back it up.
I’ve never heard of him or his theories. I find conspiracy theories fascinating because its a glimpse into another persons way of thinking. I’ll read the transcript and hopefully get back to you on your questions
I have never heard of him either.I would read his theories out of curiosity.
he does need a haircut.hard to take someone looking like that seriouly.He does look look like a madman from back to the future 🙂
He’s a loony bird!!! LOL He’s just weird to me but that doesn’t mean that some of the things he says aren’t true. I don’t know enough about all of this, I’ll have to sit and read more when I have a chance. Today has been insane, a good insane but insane non the less. Going from 2 kids to 5 is a lot of work!
I don’t remember voting for him. I don’t think I voted at all to be honest. He seemed to me to be a good governor. Again that seems like ages ago, seeing I was only 19 when he was elected.
Hi Joy ;+) Ive heard him talk a little bit on the radio. I don’t know that much about him. As far as conspiracy’s I think some times people parrot stuff that they hear from other places. I think a good rule of thumb is to check it out for yourself. I saw a conspiracy video on Youtube. That had people freaking out about red stickers on their mail boxes saying all kinds of scary stuff. We had a thought maybe it was connected with the paper delivery service so we called the local news paper and asked them, and yup it was. I was glad I didn’t just believe the scary stuff I had seen on youtube when it was such a simple answer.
Ive watched some of his conspiracy theory shows which were on TRU tv(the court channel) I thought they were quite interesting, whether i believed them or not is another story but it makes one wonder couldve it been this way??? hmmmmm
As for who he is ummm he seemed most definetly honest in his thoughts but wayyyyy to outspoken, so many times i thought that mans gotta learn when to shut his mouth. as for his hair the reference to the back to the future guy Doc was perfect. lol