Showing ID to vote

I may be a day late and a dollar short but that this is a hot button is sure news to me. I don’t mean to start any political arguments but I just want to ask one question.

How many of you had to show your ID when you went to vote? The next thing I’d like to ask is why is this a Democrat versus a Republican argument?

I knew something was wrong when watching The View last week. I’ve pretty much quit watching but I did want to see how upset Joy Behar was with all her people getting booted out of office. Then she and Elizabeth got into a very heated discussion about it. Elizabeth was upset that nobody asked her for her ID when she voted. Then Shari Sheppard said they asked her for hers. Was it because she was black she asked (why she would think that right off the bat is another discussion!!!)? They finally figured out that she hasn’t voted in NYC before so that’s why. She was also told to bring a utility bill to register. Barbara Walters then proceeded to tell Elizabeth she was wrong and you do have to show ID and they compare your signatures. Well if some do, some don’t also because we’re never asked and neither has anyone I’ve asked. Neither Elizabeth, Joy nor Whoopi had to show proof of ID so I’m not sure why Barbara so harsh with her?

Then I started thinking about it and I was just asked my name and I signed on the line and got my ballot. But to register, I  had to show my ID. I didn’t think much more about it until later on when yet again, Minnesota has to have a recount for our governor’s job and it’s such a mess that at one point there were more votes counted than were registered. It got me to thinking, what’s so hard about counting the votes and what would be the big deal about showing your ID when you went to vote? It’s only every few years. It’s not like it’s every week or month. Unless of course you live in a very small place where the volunteer knows you. I remember when I had to show my ID every single time I wrote a check. I never got mad about it.

Here are what some other people are saying about it.

Do you feel this should be a “party” thing? Does it offend you to show your ID? We’ve had 2 separate fraud charges on 2 separate credit cards in the last few months and I want people to ask me for my ID. It’s in my best interest. Isn’t it?

Why are people calling this “racist?”

Where do you stand? Did you have to show ID when you went to vote? Where do you live and would it bother you to be asked?

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11 Responses to Showing ID to vote

  1. Laura says:

    I was not asked to show my ID when I voted. In fact, I was *never* asked to show an ID, ever. I registered to vote online when we moved here – no ID. I got my voter registration card in the mail. Every time I’ve gone to vote – no ID. Steve had to get his card replaced this year, b/c his old one got destroyed in the wreck – no ID, they just printed one off and gave it to him.

    It’s a Dem/Rep thing, because EVERYTHING has to be partisan. Seriously – the Dems are pretty much run by special interests (not that R’s don’t have their own special interests) that generally include racial groups, particularly groups like La Raza (‘the race’). These groups are the ones who cry foul every time someone brings up the fact that you should, indeed, be a CITIZEN to vote. Dems (according to right wing pundits) want every vote they can beg, borrow or steal, so they do not want any impediments at all to casting a vote. Not even the pesky detail of your eligibility. It’s a joke in Chicago that you can vote for ten years after you die, but that joke is based on truth. Just look back at the last Presidential Election – the one where ACORN was involved… Mickey Mouse voted multiple times!

    My take on it is this: you should have to show valid ID every single time you vote. I don’t care if it’s for the School Board or for President of the United States. Only legal citizens (natural-born, or naturalized) should be allowed to vote. If you’re here as a guest, as an illegal, whatever, do the work and become legal, and THEN you can vote.

    And none of this “tell me your name, and I’ll rattle off all the personal info, so all you have to do is confirm it” crap. That’s the best way to invite voter fraud. Honestly, I could have gone in to every precinct in Iowa and claimed to be Jane Miller (Miller is a very popular last name around here), and simply said, “yes, yes yes” to the questions they put to me about address and birthdate. And I could have voted in every one of the precints where a Jane Miller was a resident. Because I never would have had to show an ID. The only way they’d have caught me is if the REAL Jane Miller was there at the same time I was.

    It’s pathetic, is what it is.

  2. Laura says:

    Oh, and the “racist” thing? Those that play that card say that it’s discriminatory against low-income non-white people because not all of them have a valid form of ID. I cry BS on that, too. MOST low-income people can afford the fee that states charge for an ID card. In Iowa, that’s $5. I checked Illinois, $20 (they have free cards for homeless, disabled, and a few other categories), MN ranged from $.50 (disabled) to $18.50 (under 65). So you can’t tell me that they “can’t afford it”. Especially since these fees only come around once every several years (the ID expires after a certain number of years, and you have to renew, just like a driver’s license).

  3. SKL says:

    I had to show my ID this year, but I know it hasn’t always been this way. It’s nice and convenient to not have to show it, but it is no burden to show it. The only thing is, people should know in advance to bring it.

    I absolutely believe this is a dem-rep thing and the republicans believe that the voter ID reduces the chance for voting fraud, such as voting by non-citizens and voting by dead people. I don’t know any valid reasons for the dems to be against it, so I can only surmise that the dems are OK with voting by non-citizens (assuming they will be mostly democrat votes) and by folks who cast ballots in locations other than the person’s residence (which was proven to have been facilitated by pro-democrat ACORN in recent elections). The racism question makes no sense if they ask everyone for their ID. Then you hear the whole argument about what a big burden it is on poor people or whatever – that is nonsense. They will get an ID fast enough if it means they are able to get a handout. I’m sorry, but it’s true. If someone can manage to get to a polling place, he can manage to get an official photo ID.

    When my friend became a US citizen, I went with her and the first thing that happened after the swearing-in ceremony was that she was asked to fill out a voter registration card, which she did. I hope they do this all around the country. I absolutely want all eligible US citizens to vote, but only once each!

    I think we need to get more serious about voting fraud in this country. I’m so sick of hearing that state governments KNOW there are felons and dead people on the voting rolls, but they choose not to remove them. That’s fraud in itself. Democracy is meaningless if there is nobody making sure that each vote is cast by a distinct, alive, eligible citizen of the place where it’s cast.

  4. Joy says:

    I can’t believe this but it was just on WCCO. I yelled to Paul, this is on the blog today.

    http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2010/11/10/deblog-why-dont-we-show-an-id-to-vote/

  5. Laura says:

    Some of those responses made me twitch. For example:

    “What is clear is that requiring a driver’s license to vote will create voting barriers for elderly people who no longer keep a driver’s license, students who are very mobile but have no less a right to vote, and disabled individuals. If you lose your ID or have it stolen the day before the election, you would no longer be able to vote, even if you could show alternate non-photo ID proof of identity. ” ~Jeff N.

    Seriously? An elderly person can’t get a photo ID? He can schlep himself down to the DMV to renew his driver’s license, but can’t go through the exact same process to get a photo ID? When I lived in Illinois (and I should do it again here), I paid the extra fee when I got my driver’s license, and got a state ID. I figured I’d be covered if my DL was ever lost or stolen, and I still needed a form of ID. Elderly drivers know that their driving time is likely coming to an end. There is no reason in the world why they can’t piggyback a photo ID onto their driver’s license renewal.

    And don’t give me the “students can’t get one” crap. Students have photo Student ID cards. In many places, those are acceptable for identification, including for voter registration purposes (I checked MN laws). Rare is the 18 year old who doesn’t have a driver’s license. If they choose not to get a license, it should be expected of them that they will obtain a state ID anyway. They are not going to be students forever, how do they expect to buy beer without an ID?

    As for the disabled, there are plenty of organizations, both private and public, who are happy to help you get whatever it is that you need, including a state ID.

    There are even provisions for people who are homeless.

    Another person said, “if we don’t have a problem with fraud, why should we need to show ID?”

    That’s like saying, “we’ve never had an emergency, why should we prepare for one?”

    Voter fraud is rampant in this country – true, it’s more prominent in the big cities (Hello, Chicago!!), but that’s no reason not to ‘head it off at the pass’, by something as simple as requesting a photo ID from every single person who wishes to cast a vote. In this era of illegal aliens being acceptable, it is vital that only those who are legal citizens be voting.

  6. Jenny says:

    I had to show my ID the only reason was they had my wrong address down. Which didn’t make sense because I voted for the President with my correct address and the other one (can’t remember what its called) a few months ago…my address was right there also. So I wonder why it got switched back to my mom’s address instead of our new one. I was kinda annoyed with that!

  7. SKL says:

    It’s not like voting day creeps up on ya. If you intend to exercise your right to vote, you do what’s needed in advance of voting day to get your registration done, ID, etc. Personally I question people who didn’t decide to vote until the last minute, e.g., when someone showed up to talk / bribe them into voting a certain way without having done any research of their own, or having any strong feelings of their own. I know a lot of elderly people who were eagerly looking forward to voting day and had a very clear plan for how they were going to be ready to vote, even though they don’t get out much otherwise. If it’s important to you, you’ll make it happen. If not, then you shouldn’t be voting.

  8. Nikki says:

    Well I have to admit, I did not vote. I did not know enough about the candidates to vote. I’d rather not vote, then make a very uneducated guess.

    I hate the race or poverty card, it seems like that is an easy way out for people. It really sets us back, and we as a country have come so far. Is race a factor for some? Yes, but it isn’t right to assume it and to automatically think that is why. It’s just ignorant as far as I am concerned.

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