Question of the day

If you found out a loved one, parent, child or best friend did something really bad, would you call the police?

This entry was posted in people, Question of the day, questions, simple questions, things and tagged , , , , . Bookmark the permalink.

20 Responses to Question of the day

  1. mssc54 says:

    I would first give them the chance to “do the right thing.”

  2. Sue says:

    I agree with MSSC, and what constitutes really bad?!

  3. Sue says:

    Love the new header!

    • Joy says:

      Thanks. I spent a lot of time trying to pick a new one out. You can find one you really like but it won’t fit or you can’t match the color. I like this one too. It feels warm. I can almost smell your new turkey recipe in the oven!!!

  4. Joy says:

    I’d do like mssc said. If it were “really bad” I’d give them the option of “doing the right thing” but if they didn’t, I would turn them in. I’d stand by them but really wrong wouldn’t sit well on my conscience. Because something really bad implies really hurting someone else and that’s not right no matter what.

  5. SKL says:

    I’m not sure. I mean, if I got an inkling that, say, my adult brother (whom I don’t live with) had done something at some time in the past – and it had nothing to do with me and nothing could un-do it – then isn’t it up to someone else to prosecute? Like, the victim, the cops, and ultimately God? I guess if it was something extreme like murder, or something that could recur like child molestation, I’d feel obligated to say something. Also, if I had some responsibility for that person, e.g., was harboring him in my home or needing to show “tough love” as a parent, I’d probably feel obligated to at least push him to turn himself in. If it were illegal for me to keep mum, I would probably turn him in. But I don’t think just believing someone has done something always obligates me to report them.

    I will say that if someone does decide to report another person’s crime like that, I hope they are darn sure of the facts first. I’ve had people tell me stuff about others, and I may believe it, but I didn’t see it with my own eyes. What if I reported someone and he was actually innocent? Or there were extenuating circumstances that the cops / courts won’t consider?

    • Nikki says:

      Ditto to everything SKL just said!!!! LOL

    • mssc54 says:

      SKL are you saying that you would base holding criminals accountable based on their blood lines? It would have to be an immediate relative? Cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents be damned? And of course complete strangers are heald to the strictest of legal/moral standards? Would your stance change if your children knew? How would you explain that to them?

      • SKL says:

        MSSC, I’m not talking about accountability. I’m talking about what MY role should be. If I’d wanted to go into law enforcement, I would have.

        I was using the “brother” example just to illustrate a situation where I might actually know someone had done something but still not feel it is my role to turn them in. It has nothing to do with “kin” preferences. (Come on, is that really how I come across after these years on the blog?)

        I mean, I think people shouldn’t cheat on their spouses, but that is a lot different from saying that I ought to go rat out everyone who does it.

        One issue I have is that there can be a lot of subjectivity in “wrongdoing.” You know, even God said, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. We all know the law isn’t perfect as far as holding the right people accountable to the right degree. Here’s another example. Suppose I knew that you learned that someone raped your daughter – or impregnated your wife – and you found him the next day and assaulted him. Maybe you would be wise to turn yourself in, but if you didn’t, is that really something I should be messing with, just because I happen to know you? Especially if the “victim” of the beating isn’t complaining. Even rape can be a very subjective crime under certain circumstances. If the victim is adult, alive, and able to talk / identify the perp, then it ought to be up to her to make that decision.

  6. Joy says:

    OKAY…Let’s put the Question of the Day like this.

    If you’re brother robbed a bank at gun point and the police came to looking for him and he’d ran to you and was at your house, would you turn him in?

    Sometimes these questions get taken to literally. I’m not talking about gossip or innuendo. It’s just a made up question. When I said “really bad” I thought I’d made myself clear. It wasn’t running a red light or stealing a pack of gum. Rape, murder, armed robbery, kidnapping, burned someones house down………, right now, not last year and you are positive because he told you and wanted you to hide him out.

    • SKL says:

      If he came to me for harboring, I sure wouldn’t harbor him. He would be back on the street immediately – and if he wouldn’t leave, I’d call the cops. But, I’m not sure I’d call the cops after he left. I know some people see this as black and white, but I just don’t. I think I’d turn him in if there were a human victim who could not prosecute (murder victim, random rape victim, child rape victim, etc.). Not sure about other cases.

      I don’t know, I just have this feeling that it’s usually better to let people come to see the error of their ways rather than turn them over to the “system.” I don’t think the “system” is objective or fair, and I don’t think it reforms people. It’s one thing to “get those people off the street” for a long time. But is that really what’s going to happen? And what about the risk that the person will get angry and come back and hurt me or my house / kids?

      • mssc54 says:

        That’s my “problem.” I see things in “black and white,” right or wrong,” no gray areas. When you start making excuses for this or that then who’s to say where it stops.

        And if given half the oppertunity I would do some serious damage to anyone who harmed any one of my family members. I would be willing to suffer the consequences. Maybe I could plead temporary sanity! 🙂

        • SKL says:

          See, I’m not “making excuses” for anyone. I’m just declining to get involved where I don’t see my involvement to be necessary.

          I don’t know where it’s written that each of us is supposed to be an informant against our neighbors. Am I missing something?

          By the way, I could see myself tearing the eyes out of anyone who messed with my daughters. And you know, in this sick world, I would be incarcerated while that perv would be released next door to an elementary school.

          • mssc54 says:

            Okay then, I’m sure if you saw your neighbor sexually abusing his child in his back yard every Friday night you would notify authorities.

            I think that is one of the biggest problems with society today. Unless something dramatically and personally affects (some) people they are reluctant to “get involved.”

            Yes I think you are missing something. The something missing is; Where is the line? Crimes against children? Crimes against women? Violant crimes? Mind your own business until someone is bleading or unconcious? Or not even then. Does it have to affect you personally before you get involved?

            • SKL says:

              First of all, I stated already that I would report and get involved if there was a child being victimized. In fact, I wouldn’t just call the cops but go over there and get between the kid and the perp so no further damage would be done while the cops were on their way.

              Secondly, “getting involved” doesn’t have to mean calling the cops. I am a person who does a lot in the community (relatively), but I’m more likely to personally step into something and offer a hand versus calling the cops on somebody – unless that seems likely to have a better result.

              I think maybe you and I are reading this entirely differently. You are coming up with a pretty inaccurate impression of the kind of person I am. It’s kind of frustrating but I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt that we’re just not communicating.

              As for “where is the line,” yeah, that is the question. I have no doubt that you also draw a line. Do you call the cops every time you think an acquaintance might have violated a local ordinance? I doubt it. So let me ask you – what was the last thing you called the cops on somebody for? I have called the cops on someone who was slapping around his domestic partner, for example. I’ve called the cops on someone who was driving erratically because I thought someone might get hurt. I don’t call the cops every time I see someone accidentally run a stop sign, and I hope nobody would do that to me, either. So yeah, I draw a line. That’s what humans do.

              Maybe you have a lot more faith than I do in how much “calling the cops” is likely to improve the human experience. I know at least 2 people who were murdered by cops while NOT committing a crime, so maybe I’m jaded.

              • mssc54 says:

                Matter-o-fact I called the coppers twice just last week.

                First when the hard hats at a construction on a busy two lane street just step out in the road and hold their hand up to stop traffic so they can get some of their construction stuff off/on the site. Like they have some authority. Of course I HAVE to stop because the nimrods in front of me stop. I MAY slow down so the hard had construction worker guy realizes he needs an entire hard body suit if he thinks I’ll recognize his authority to keep me from going to my job because he doesn’t want to wait for traffic to clear so he can do his.

                Second time was when I saw four guys across the street on our neighborhood tennis courts bouncing up and down on the courts’ nets. We’ve had lots of vandelism so I figure let the coppers check them out before they tear the place entirely up.

                I call on eratic drivers all the time. I even stay on the phone and follow them at a distance until they get behind them. 🙂

    • mssc54 says:

      Okay next time make it something like:

      “List the things you would turn people in for breaking the law.

      Now list the things that you would not turn people for.” 🙂

      I know it’s wrong but for some reason I ALWAYS find myself rooting for the bankrobber to get away. As long as no one gets hurt that is. I confess that is not right but that’s how it is for me. Iwonder why that is.

  7. lucy says:

    I think I agree wth SKL. I wouldn’t harbor him/her in the first place. I would tell him/her to get out because I’m not willing to mess up my life because of his/her actions.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s