Wow! What do you think of this debate? I’ll be honest. I’m just sitting here thinking some people are so stupid. I see NOTHING wrong with that street name. I really like it actually.
SKL, you have to get to a monitor that works so you can watch this. Here’s the gist of it if you can’t.
Debate: Should Sign Honoring 9/11 Heroes Be Removed Because It Mentions Heaven?
“Seven firefighters from New York City’s Engine 202, Ladder 101 died on 9/11. Now, part of a road in Red Hook, Brooklyn has been renamed “Seven in Heaven Way” in honor of their sacrifice. But the move has angered a group of local atheists who claim that “It’s improper for the city to endorse the view that Heaven exists.”
Sean asks what the world is coming to that we can’t commemorate such a sacrifice without controversy and whether it’s become the mission of the left to ban the name of God from the public square entirely.
Michael De Dora of the Center for Inquiry in NY and Jay Sekulow of the American Center for Law & Justice engage in a heated debate.”
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See, this is why I think atheists are among the most miserable people on the planet. What is it really hurting? Why not let us dumb believers print the word, if it makes us happy?
Are they going to tell me they NEVER use the word Heaven? I don’t believe it. When I see someone really enjoying him/herself, I say “she’s in Heaven,” and I’ll bet they say the word sometimes too.
Would they prefer to say Seven Burnt Up or Rotting or Getting Eaten By Worms??
But if they are gonna even have their complaint entertained for a moment, where is this going to lead?
Will we have to rename every street, town, city, and public learning institution that is named after a religious figure or event? That would be a LOT of real estate.
What will happen to people who are named after religious figures? Will they have to change their names, or will it be enough that they simply be banned from public schools and public offices?
Will US history be banned in schools, since, for example, the Declaration of Independence and other important documents mention God? And Abraham Lincoln was named after a Jewish dude?
I think it’s a shame that we even have to have this kind of discussion.
If you weren’t able to listen to the clip Jay Sekulow made minced meat out of Michael De Dora who was only there because nobody from the atheist protesters showed up. What does that tell you? Anyway, De Dora said that a “religious” leader is a real person as were men in history so they’re “okay” with that. We don’t know that “heaven” as a real place! That was the logic I think!!!!!!
Well, I must say that Mr. De Dora sure came off as a schmuck! Of course, Mr Sekulow barely let him get a word in edgewise.
I’m not sure (much to my chagrin) right now which document it is that guarantees freedom of religion (or in some cases, lack thereof). However, it is in one of the major US documents. I must agree with Mr. Sekulow that most, if not all, of the world religions do indeed believe in Heaven. So the argument that the government is endorsing one religion over any other is ludicrous!
It is a fact that all 50 states refer to God, or the Creator in the state Constitutions. Every single one! However, neither God or Creator is referred to on the sign. You’re right, SKL, the fact that discussions like this even take place is a real shame!
Here’s a thought, why don’t all the darn atheists just boycott the Seven in Heaven street? Gee, would that be too simple? Or maybe if they’re in need of assistance from the FD they should make sure to notify a different firehouse for assistance. That would pay the FD back!! Really, don’t these people, more often that not, come off like little kids who aren’t getting their own way? Ridiculous! But really, really sad that these debates take place at all! 😦
This is so dumb! I don’t care what a person believes in or doesn’t believe in, but what in the world is this hurting?! It’s like people wanting “In God We Trust” taken off the dollar bill. It’s money, still spends the same way. People need to stop being so darn sensitive, and get a life. There are more important issues that they can turn their energy to.
I think it’s a stupid argument also and I’m tired of MY religious rights getting trampled by everyone else. If you don’t like it, don’t use the street, don’t walk that way so you have to see the sign, don’t support the FD. But DON’T tell me that sign is infringing on your rights b/c it’s NOT all about you!
What I also don’t understand is that this honor is FOR the firemen it’s NOT for the people using the street.
Is there anything the Left or Progressives won’t cry about? If they were truly intelligent people they wouldn’t care because they wouldn’t find it offensive. Guess that explains why they complain.
Friggin’ morons.
This just pisses me off!
I knew it would. It pisses me off too. It’s such a cute name and I’ll bet it means so much to their families.