You know, I’m not even sure I understand what all these people are protesting. In general, I don’t go for protesting. I think there are better ways to get your point across and tend to think peoples feeling get the better of them and fighting is about all that takes place. So when I saw this, it made it easy for me to understand part of it.
What do you think of this? I heard it on The View this morning and went looking and found it here. I copied and pasted it below.
“This graphic is making the rounds on Facebook. It ties in with something I’ve always wondered: where do people who don’t like corporations work? Do they seriously want to turn the clock back by centuries–it would take some research to figure to how many–to a world in which the only forms of business organization are sole proprietorships and partnerships? And who do they think designs, manufactures and distributes the products they use? Elves? Liberals denounced Mitt Romney for saying “corporations are people,” and I think they even made a video about it. But of course Romney was right. A corporation consists of its owners (people who are shareholders) and its employees (people who work for the company). It is an elementary rule of law that a corporation can act only through people–its employees and agents. So how do liberals think they can hurt corporations without hurting people? The sheer stupidity of such thinking is enough to give you a headache.
Anyway, here is the graphic:”
Here’s a couple of points I haven’t seen/heard mention.
1. The protesters are being offered/paid weekly to “protest.”
1.a. Do they now risk committing unemployment fraud if they collect both checks?
2. Does the organization pay these “employees'” health insurance? Isn’t that one of their gripes (employer paid health coverage)?
2a. Is the “employer” complying with the minimum wage law?
2b. Why don’t these employees get paid overtime?
I have to say I do not have time to dig into what’s behind these protests. I’ve been around long enough to pretty much know. I can also pretty much guarantee that the vast majority of these protestors will happily take a corporate job in the not-so-distant future. If only people could see into their own future, we’d have a lot less foolishness.
I have an acquaintance (a friend’s cousin) who thinks she is a communist. She teaches at a pricey university where her job is funded by corporate mom & dad, and her curriculum is all “down with capitalism, down with the USA.” (I should also note that she immigrated from a more socialist country – I wonder why?) She takes every advantage of capitalism that suits her, though. She’s from a rich family and whines because her parents “only” gave her a computer and a free ride through her education, oh, and “only” one rental property (apartment building). How unfair! (She claims her brother got more.) If she were a true communist, she’d donate the property and most of her earnings to the common folk, but no, she doesn’t do any of that. That’s for suckers! But she can march against the USA, write books against corporations, etc. – and get paid for it! Rah, rah, rah! Yet if you engage her in a serious discussion and ask her to defend her views, she really doesn’t have much to say. She just laughs like, “lighten up, who really expects integrity?”
Obviously I have plenty of my own views, but I don’t want to waste my breath responding to this stuff. It’s just the same cycle over and over. Plus, I can’t seem to have a political discussion without someone digging in and making it a fight. And I am too old and crotchety to be told by some youngster that I’m naive.
I may be corporate America (or have been in the past with no regrets), but I’ve also been a geriatric nurse’s aid changing adult poopy diapers, busted my ass in factories, worked 24+-hour shifts, and much more. I’ve also traveled in the Third World, where our “poor” look filthy rich. So my patience for juvenile protests is pretty thin.
A quick note about perspective. Recently I’ve followed many people’s stories of life-threatening medical issues – both in blogland and in real life. Most of these people were saved or achieved a significantly higher quality of life thanks to medical technology. Technology that would not exist without capitalism / corporations. I notice that none of the parents of kids saved by medical technology, that I know of, are out there protesting capitalism.
I haven’t seen a single thing that I can identify with in these idiotic “protests”. I haven’t heard a solid message except maybe “greed is bad”.
the thing that really bothers me about them is that they’re being held up as this great “force”… this great groundswell and grassroots movement. And they’re not. They’ve been organized all the way along. If you believe the uber-right wing of Rush/Glenn/Sean, it may have even started in the White House itself. Regardless, it’s hardly an organic movement. I can pinpoint the beginning of the Tea Party – remember that Chicago Trader who said that we need another “Boston Tea Party”? Right after that was when Tea Party groups started organizing all around the country. And they started connecting after that.
I just think it’s hilarious that they’re advertising on Craig’sList for people to be paid to protest. All that “evil Capitalism” and not enough government and all that….. and it’s Capitalism and lack of government involvement that allows these mopes to be where they are in the first place. I just wish I knew who some of them were, and if they lived around here. I’d go to their boss and offer to take over their positions when they get fired.
The moment I saw all the union placards, I stopped paying attention.
What do they bring to the table? Replace ‘greedy’ corps with ‘greedy’ people?
Some people tend to be ridiculous! That’s all I’ve got to say on this matter.
I just heard on tv that these people walked through “affluent people’s” neighborhood’s yesterday. So now they’re infringing on our rights. How can this be legal? In other words, we shouldn’t work hard to get things we have or people will protest on our streets? Come on!
They tried this in Des Moines this week. Over the weekend, they were busted for trespassing, because they didn’t bother getting a permit to be there. Now they’ve applied for, and received, a three-day permit. And they’ve put out press releases saying that “they’re sure” that their permit will be extended, and they’ll be able to stay as long as they want. I have a feeling that the permit will not be extended. We may live in the “blue” state of Iowa, but that doesn’t mean that it’s not a state of hardworking, practical people who don’t have much patience for this kind of stupidity. It’ll be interesting to see how long “Occupy Iowa” lasts…
I read today that some rich Hollywood types have started to join into the protest – including some who have accepted generous compensation for promoting evil corporations.
What exactly are they protesting again??
I don’t think anybody really knows – not even them! It just looks to me like a great, big “look at me” convention. And yeah, I think it’s pretty hilarious that Kanye West, of all people, is trying to get involved. He pulled in something like $30m last year. And he’s thinking that he’s one of the 99% that they’re “protesting” for?
Is “peaceful right to assembly” allowed to be done in personal neighborhoods? What about their rights to privacy? I saw last night on Nightline that people were being arrested and the policemen were having to carry them out by feet and shoulders, taking 2 officers JUST because they need to clean and sanitize Central Park because it looks like a dump now and that they’re not going to let them “gather” there because of a city ordinance and now everyone’s undies are in a bunch over that. All these people have been living/camping there and they’re complaining because the city wants to go in and collect THEIR garbage!! Where have they been going to the bathroom? This is sickening. Where are they eating? Corporate restaurants? When you get right down to it, almost every business is a corporation of some kind.
I’ve seen on FB that people are thinking this is great and they post things about Greed and Down with Wall Street yet they’re using computers or phones and they’re living a life like the rest of us with jobs and bank loans and using “corporate” stuff yet they’re almost wanting to riot over it.
I just don’t get what they’re doing or what it is they really want. Is it just publicity and if so, for who or what?
The whole garbage thing – to me that proves we’re dealing with degenerates. People who really want to improve the country/world don’t do it by going and crapping on town square.